Qwen3.8 27B vs Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct
At a Glance
| Compare |  Qwen3.8 27BQwen | |
|---|---|---|
| Intelligence, Cost, and Efficiency | ||
| IntelligenceHigher is better · MM Intelligence v2.5 | #30 of 4654.0 score · 2/3 sources · provisional · missing ARC-AGI-2 · full-core range 36.0–69.4 | UnrankedNot in the 46-model eligible cohort |
| CostLower is better · Published-token output estimate | #16 of 44$0.072 per LiveBench case | UnrankedNot in the 44-model eligible cohort |
| EfficiencyHigher is better · MM Efficiency v1.5 | #17 of 3854.8 score · 2/3 sources · provisional · missing ARC-AGI-2 · full-core range 45.8–62.5 | UnrankedNot in the 38-model eligible cohort |
| Pricing and Limits | ||
| Input priceFrom · USD / 1M tokens | $0.20Deepinfra ↗ · Sep 21, 2026 | $0.10Deepinfra ↗ · Sep 21, 2026 |
| Output priceFrom · USD / 1M tokens | $2.50Deepinfra ↗ · Sep 21, 2026 | $0.30Deepinfra ↗ · Sep 21, 2026 |
| Context windowMaximum documented tokens | 262K | 10,000K |
| Model facts checked | Aug 28, 2026View model evidence → | Aug 28, 2026View model evidence → |
Token prices are the lowest available sourced USD rates; input and output may use different providers. Cost ranking estimates output spend on LiveBench, not a full request bill. Ranking methodology →
Available Benchmarks
| Benchmark | Qwen3.8-27B | Llama-4-Scout-17B-16E-Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text Arenatext-2026-09-13-d25aabda0010 · arena_rating · leader | 1,439.27100% of row best · rating · qwen3.8-27b; 95% CI [1432.84410050, 1445.69542028]; votes 10697; rank 68 | 1,279.2989% of row best · rating · llama-4-scout-17b-16e-instruct; 95% CI [1274.57681953, 1284.00026285]; votes 29740; rank 259 |
| LMArena Vision Arenavision-2026-09-13-d25aabda0010 · arena_rating · leader | 1,272.12100% of row best · rating · qwen3.8-27b; 95% CI [1262.21853873, 1282.01179703]; votes 4577; rank 35 | 1,117.8088% of row best · rating · llama-4-scout-17b-16e-instruct; 95% CI [1108.35603674, 1127.24229078]; votes 6466; rank 114 |
| Overall ResultCounted from the protocol-matched rows above | 2 benchmark winsNo overall winner | 0 benchmark winsNo overall winner |
Third-party benchmark Only like-for-like primary-publisher results are shown; raw scores, relative scores, configuration, and token spend remain visible.
Side-by-Side Facts
| Field | Qwen3.8-27B | Llama-4-Scout-17B-16E-Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| Developer | Qwen | Meta |
| Family | Qwen3 8 27b | Llama 4 Scout 17b 16e Instruct |
| Model | Qwen3.8-27B | Llama-4-Scout-17B-16E-Instruct |
| Version | Qwen3.8-27B | Llama-4-Scout-17B-16E-Instruct |
| Lifecycle | active | active |
| Released | Unknown | 2025-04-05 |
| Knowledge cutoff | Unknown | Unknown |
| Input modalities | Text, Image | Text, Image |
| Output modalities | Text | Text |
| Context window | 262K | 10,000K |
| Total parameters | 27.8B | 108.6B |
| Active parameters | Unknown | 17B |
| License | apache-2.0 | other |
| Open weights | Yes | Yes |
| API available | Yes | Yes |
| Self-hostable | Yes | Yes |
| Provider access | Deepinfra (Standard), Hugging Face (Standard), Openrouter (Standard) | Deepinfra (Standard), Hugging Face (Standard), Openrouter (Standard), Together Ai (Standard) |
| Capabilities | chat, generation, reasoning, tools | chat, generation, tools |
Qwen3.8 27B Capabilities
Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct Capabilities
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Primary Evidence
Sources and Freshness
Questions
Qwen3.8 27B vs Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct FAQs
Is Qwen3.8 27B or Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct better for coding?+
This comparison does not currently contain a protocol-matched coding benchmark for both Qwen3.8 27B and Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct, so Model Markets cannot name a coding leader from pricing, context size, or capability labels alone.
Which is cheaper, Qwen3.8 27B or Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct?+
Qwen3.8 27B is $0.20 and Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct is $0.10 per million tokens, so Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct is cheaper on this metric. Qwen3.8 27B is $2.50 and Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct is $0.30 per million tokens, so Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct is cheaper on this metric.
Which has a larger context window, Qwen3.8 27B or Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct?+
Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct has the larger sourced context window. Qwen3.8 27B supports 262K and Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct supports 10,000K.
Which performs better in benchmarks, Qwen3.8 27B or Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct?+
There is no overall benchmark winner: An overall winner requires at least two decisive benchmarks from at least two original publishers.
Can Qwen3.8 27B or Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct be self-hosted?+
Both models have the same recorded self-hosting status: supported. Qwen3.8 27B is open weight; Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct is open weight.
Can Qwen3.8 27B and Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct understand images?+
Qwen3.8 27B is documented with image input; Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct is documented with image input. This reflects supported input modalities, not vision quality.
Which can generate longer answers, Qwen3.8 27B or Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct?+
Neither has a larger sourced maximum output. Qwen3.8 27B is 131K and Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct is —.
Do Qwen3.8 27B and Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct support reasoning and tool use?+
Qwen3.8 27B: reasoning, tool calling, and image input. Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct: tool calling and image input. Feature support does not establish relative quality.
Which is available from more inference providers, Qwen3.8 27B or Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct?+
Qwen3.8 27B has 3 sourced provider routes; Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct has 4, so Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct has broader tracked availability.
Which offers better value, Qwen3.8 27B or Llama 4 Scout 17B 16E Instruct?+
There is no universal value winner. Compare the input and output prices above with the matched benchmark result for your workload: cheaper tokens can be offset by different quality, token usage, latency, or provider availability.