NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B vs Qwen3.8-Max
Benchmark Performance
Available Benchmarks
| Benchmark | NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B | Qwen3.8-Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text Arenatext-2026-09-01-011508720696 · arena_rating · leader | 1,331.8490% of row best · rating · nvidia-nemotron-3.5-lightning-30b-a3b-nvfp4; 95% CI [1322.39322537, 1341.28358716]; votes 4533; rank 207 | 1,479.56100% of row best · rating · qwen3.8-max; 95% CI [1473.34740586, 1485.77213629]; votes 13136; rank 12 |
| Overall ResultCounted from the protocol-matched rows above | 0 benchmark wins | 1 benchmark winOverall lead |
Third-party benchmark Only like-for-like primary-publisher results are shown; raw scores, relative scores, configuration, and token spend remain visible.
Technical Differences
Side-by-Side Facts
| Field | NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B | Qwen3.8-Max |
|---|---|---|
| Developer | NVIDIA | Qwen |
| Family | Nvidia Nemotron 3 5 Lightning | Qwen3 8 Max |
| Model | NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B | Qwen3.8-Max |
| Version | NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B | Qwen3.8-Max |
| Lifecycle | active | active |
| Released | 2026-08-11 | Unknown |
| Knowledge cutoff | Unknown | Unknown |
| Input modalities | Text | Text, Image, Video |
| Output modalities | Text | Text |
| Context window | 1,048,576 | 1,000,000 |
| Total parameters | 30,000,000,000 | 2,400,000,000,000 |
| Active parameters | 3,000,000,000 | Unknown |
| License | openmdw-1.1 | Unknown |
| Open weights | Yes | No |
| API available | Unknown | Yes |
| Self-hostable | Yes | No |
| Provider access | Fireworks Ai (Standard) | Alibaba Cloud Model Studio (Standard), Deepinfra (Standard), Fireworks Ai (Standard), Openrouter (Standard) |
| Capabilities | agents, chat, generation, reasoning, tools | agents, chat, reasoning, structured_outputs, tools, vision |
13 comparable fields · 11 material differences · Pair passes the primary-source comparison gate
NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B Capabilities
Qwen3.8-Max Capabilities
Internal Comparison Graph
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Primary Evidence
Sources and Freshness
Questions
NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B vs Qwen3.8-Max FAQs
Is NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B or Qwen3.8-Max better for coding?+
This comparison does not currently contain a protocol-matched coding benchmark for both NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B and Qwen3.8-Max, so Model Markets cannot name a coding leader from pricing, context size, or capability labels alone.
Which is cheaper, NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B or Qwen3.8-Max?+
Only Qwen3.8-Max has a directly sourced input price: $1.65 per million tokens. Only Qwen3.8-Max has a directly sourced output price: $4.951 per million tokens.
Which has a larger context window, NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B or Qwen3.8-Max?+
NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B has the larger sourced context window. NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B supports 1,048,576 and Qwen3.8-Max supports 1,000,000.
Which performs better in benchmarks, NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B or Qwen3.8-Max?+
There is no overall benchmark winner: At least two independently verified, protocol-matched benchmarks are required for an overall winner.
Can NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B or Qwen3.8-Max be self-hosted?+
NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B is the only model in this pair currently marked as self-hostable. NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B is open weight; Qwen3.8-Max is not marked open weight.
Can NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B and Qwen3.8-Max understand images?+
NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B is not documented with image input; Qwen3.8-Max is documented with image input. This reflects supported input modalities, not vision quality.
Which can generate longer answers, NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B or Qwen3.8-Max?+
Neither has a larger sourced maximum output. NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B is — and Qwen3.8-Max is 131,072.
Do NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B and Qwen3.8-Max support reasoning and tool use?+
NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B: reasoning and tool calling. Qwen3.8-Max: reasoning, tool calling, and image input. Feature support does not establish relative quality.
Which is available from more inference providers, NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B or Qwen3.8-Max?+
NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B has 1 sourced provider route; Qwen3.8-Max has 4, so Qwen3.8-Max has broader tracked availability.
Which offers better value, NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B or Qwen3.8-Max?+
There is no universal value winner. Compare the input and output prices above with the matched benchmark result for your workload: cheaper tokens can be offset by different quality, token usage, latency, or provider availability.