NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B vs Qwen3.8 Max
At a Glance
| Compare |  Qwen3.8 MaxQwen | |
|---|---|---|
| Intelligence, Cost, and Efficiency | ||
| IntelligenceHigher is better · MM Intelligence v4.4 | #43 of 570.0 score · 1/3 sources · single-source provisional · missing LiveBench, ARC-AGI-2 · full-core range 0.0–66.7 | #7 of 5783.4 score · 2/3 sources · provisional · missing ARC-AGI-2 · full-core range 55.6–88.9 |
| CostLower is better · Published-token output estimate | UnrankedNot in the 27-model eligible cohort | #16 of 27$0.107 per LiveBench case |
| EfficiencyHigher is better · MM Efficiency v1.9 | UnrankedNot in the 27-model eligible cohort | #6 of 2758.6 score · 2/3 sources · provisional · missing ARC-AGI-2 · full-core range 44.7–61.3 |
| Pricing and Limits | ||
| Input priceFrom · USD / 1M tokens | Not reported | $1.65Deepinfra ↗ · Oct 19, 2026 |
| Output priceFrom · USD / 1M tokens | Not reported | $4.951Deepinfra ↗ · Oct 19, 2026 |
| Context windowMaximum documented tokens | 1,049K | 1,000K |
| Model facts checked | Sep 3, 2026View model evidence → | Aug 29, 2026View model evidence → |
Token prices are the lowest available sourced USD rates; input and output may use different providers. Cost ranking estimates output spend on LiveBench, not a full request bill. Ranking methodology →
Available Benchmarks
| Benchmark | NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B | Qwen3.8-Max |
|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text Arenatext-2026-10-15-a64ca3b12b6e · arena_rating · leader | 1,328.8890% of row best · rating · nvidia-nemotron-3.5-lightning-30b-a3b-nvfp4; 95% CI [1323.35291228, 1334.41299389]; votes 19938; rank 229 | 1,482.88100% of row best · rating · qwen3.8-max; 95% CI [1477.92809424, 1487.82635626]; votes 27766; rank 17 |
| Overall ResultCounted from the protocol-matched rows above | 0 benchmark winsNo overall winner | 1 benchmark winNo overall winner |
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Side-by-Side Facts
| Field | NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B | Qwen3.8-Max |
|---|---|---|
| Developer | NVIDIA | Qwen |
| Family | Nvidia Nemotron 3 5 Lightning | Qwen3 8 Max |
| Model | NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B | Qwen3.8-Max |
| Version | NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B | Qwen3.8-Max |
| Lifecycle | active | active |
| Released | 2026-08-11 | Unknown |
| Knowledge cutoff | Unknown | Unknown |
| Input modalities | Text | Text, Image, Video |
| Output modalities | Text | Text |
| Context window | 1,049K | 1,000K |
| Total parameters | 30B | 2.4T |
| Active parameters | 3B | Unknown |
| License | openmdw-1.1 | Unknown |
| Open weights | Yes | No |
| API available | Yes | Yes |
| Self-hostable | Yes | No |
| Provider access | Fireworks Ai (Standard) | Alibaba Cloud Model Studio (Standard), Deepinfra (Standard), Fireworks Ai (Standard), Openrouter (Standard) |
| Capabilities | agents, chat, generation, reasoning, tools | agents, chat, reasoning, structured_outputs, tools, vision |
NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B Capabilities
Qwen3.8 Max Capabilities
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Primary Evidence
Sources and Freshness
Questions
NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B vs Qwen3.8 Max FAQs
Is NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B or Qwen3.8 Max better for coding?+
This comparison does not currently contain a protocol-matched coding benchmark for both NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B and Qwen3.8 Max, so Model Markets cannot name a coding leader from pricing, context size, or capability labels alone.
Which is cheaper, NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B or Qwen3.8 Max?+
Only Qwen3.8 Max has a directly sourced input price: $1.65 per million tokens. Only Qwen3.8 Max has a directly sourced output price: $4.951 per million tokens.
Which has a larger context window, NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B or Qwen3.8 Max?+
NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B has the larger sourced context window. NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B supports 1,048,576 tokens and Qwen3.8 Max supports 1,000,000 tokens.
Which performs better in benchmarks, NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B or Qwen3.8 Max?+
There is no overall benchmark winner: At least two independently verified, protocol-matched benchmarks are required for an overall winner.
Can NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B or Qwen3.8 Max be self-hosted?+
NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B is documented as self-hostable; Qwen3.8 Max is documented as not self-hostable. NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B is open weight; Qwen3.8 Max is not marked open weight.
Can NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B and Qwen3.8 Max understand images?+
NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B is not documented with image input; Qwen3.8 Max is documented with image input. This reflects supported input modalities, not vision quality.
Which can generate longer answers, NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B or Qwen3.8 Max?+
Qwen3.8 Max has a sourced maximum output of 131,072 tokens; NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B's maximum output is not reported. A larger limit cannot be determined.
Do NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B and Qwen3.8 Max support reasoning and tool use?+
NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B: reasoning and tool calling. Qwen3.8 Max: reasoning, tool calling, and image input. Feature support does not establish relative quality.
Which is available from more inference providers, NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B or Qwen3.8 Max?+
NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B has 1 sourced provider route; Qwen3.8 Max has 4, so Qwen3.8 Max has broader tracked availability.
Which offers better value, NVIDIA Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B or Qwen3.8 Max?+
There is no universal value winner. Compare the input and output prices above with the matched benchmark result for your workload: cheaper tokens can be offset by different quality, token usage, latency, or provider availability.