DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp vs Qwen3.8 Max
At a Glance
| Compare |  DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision ExpDeepSeek |  Qwen3.8 MaxQwen |
|---|---|---|
| Intelligence, Cost, and Efficiency | ||
| IntelligenceHigher is better · MM Intelligence v4.4 | UnrankedNot in the 57-model eligible cohort | #7 of 5783.4 score · 2/3 sources · provisional · missing ARC-AGI-2 · full-core range 55.6–88.9 |
| CostLower is better · Published-token output estimate | UnrankedNot in the 27-model eligible cohort | #16 of 27$0.107 per LiveBench case |
| EfficiencyHigher is better · MM Efficiency v1.9 | UnrankedNot in the 27-model eligible cohort | #6 of 2758.6 score · 2/3 sources · provisional · missing ARC-AGI-2 · full-core range 44.7–61.3 |
| Pricing and Limits | ||
| Input priceFrom · USD / 1M tokens | $0.22DeepSeek ↗ · Sep 2, 2026 | $1.65Deepinfra ↗ · Oct 19, 2026 |
| Output priceFrom · USD / 1M tokens | $0.66DeepSeek ↗ · Sep 2, 2026 | $4.951Deepinfra ↗ · Oct 19, 2026 |
| Context windowMaximum documented tokens | 1,049K | 1,000K |
| Model facts checked | Sep 2, 2026View model evidence → | Aug 29, 2026View model evidence → |
Token prices are the lowest available sourced USD rates; input and output may use different providers. Cost ranking estimates output spend on LiveBench, not a full request bill. Ranking methodology →
Available Benchmarks
| Benchmark | DeepSeek-V4-Flash-Vision-Exp | Qwen3.8-Max |
|---|---|---|
| LiveBench2026-06-25-90f8d44da965 · overall · leader | 79.6797% of row best · percent · deepseek-v4-flash-vision-exp · 52,644 output tokens / case | 81.88100% of row best · percent · qwen3.8-max · 21,637 output tokens / case |
| Overall ResultCounted from the protocol-matched rows above | 0 benchmark winsNo overall winner | 1 benchmark winNo overall winner |
Third-party benchmark Only like-for-like primary-publisher results are shown; raw scores, relative scores, configuration, and token spend remain visible.
Side-by-Side Facts
| Field | DeepSeek-V4-Flash-Vision-Exp | Qwen3.8-Max |
|---|---|---|
| Developer | DeepSeek | Qwen |
| Family | Deepseek V4 Flash Vision Exp | Qwen3 8 Max |
| Model | DeepSeek-V4-Flash-Vision-Exp | Qwen3.8-Max |
| Version | DeepSeek-V4-Flash-Vision-Exp | Qwen3.8-Max |
| Lifecycle | retired | active |
| Released | 2026-08-21 | Unknown |
| Knowledge cutoff | Unknown | Unknown |
| Input modalities | Text, Image | Text, Image, Video |
| Output modalities | Text | Text |
| Context window | 1,049K | 1,000K |
| Total parameters | 304.6B | 2.4T |
| Active parameters | Unknown | Unknown |
| License | mit | Unknown |
| Open weights | Yes | No |
| API available | Yes | Yes |
| Self-hostable | Yes | No |
| Provider access | DeepSeek (Standard), Deepinfra (Standard), Fireworks Ai (Standard) | Alibaba Cloud Model Studio (Standard), Deepinfra (Standard), Fireworks Ai (Standard), Openrouter (Standard) |
| Capabilities | chat, generation, reasoning, structured_outputs, tools | agents, chat, reasoning, structured_outputs, tools, vision |
DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp Capabilities
Qwen3.8 Max Capabilities
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Primary Evidence
Sources and Freshness
Questions
DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp vs Qwen3.8 Max FAQs
Is DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp or Qwen3.8 Max better for coding?+
This comparison does not currently contain a protocol-matched coding benchmark for both DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp and Qwen3.8 Max, so Model Markets cannot name a coding leader from pricing, context size, or capability labels alone.
Which is cheaper, DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp or Qwen3.8 Max?+
DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp is $0.22 and Qwen3.8 Max is $1.65 per million tokens, so DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp is cheaper on this metric. DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp is $0.66 and Qwen3.8 Max is $4.951 per million tokens, so DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp is cheaper on this metric.
Which has a larger context window, DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp or Qwen3.8 Max?+
DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp has the larger sourced context window. DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp supports 1,048,576 tokens and Qwen3.8 Max supports 1,000,000 tokens.
Which performs better in benchmarks, DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp or Qwen3.8 Max?+
There is no overall benchmark winner: At least two independently verified, protocol-matched benchmarks are required for an overall winner.
Can DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp or Qwen3.8 Max be self-hosted?+
DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp is documented as self-hostable; Qwen3.8 Max is documented as not self-hostable. DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp is open weight; Qwen3.8 Max is not marked open weight.
Can DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp and Qwen3.8 Max understand images?+
DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp is documented with image input; Qwen3.8 Max is documented with image input. This reflects supported input modalities, not vision quality.
Which can generate longer answers, DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp or Qwen3.8 Max?+
DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp has the larger sourced maximum output. DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp supports 393,216 tokens and Qwen3.8 Max supports 131,072 tokens.
Do DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp and Qwen3.8 Max support reasoning and tool use?+
DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp: reasoning, tool calling, and image input. Qwen3.8 Max: reasoning, tool calling, and image input. Feature support does not establish relative quality.
Which is available from more inference providers, DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp or Qwen3.8 Max?+
DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp has 3 sourced provider routes; Qwen3.8 Max has 4, so Qwen3.8 Max has broader tracked availability.
Which offers better value, DeepSeek V4 Flash Vision Exp or Qwen3.8 Max?+
There is no universal value winner. Compare the input and output prices above with the matched benchmark result for your workload: cheaper tokens can be offset by different quality, token usage, latency, or provider availability.